tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post4803987185584611505..comments2024-01-29T06:02:39.583-08:00Comments on Suzanne's Bookshelf: why is sophia silent?Suzanne McCarthyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-67248101257280381202009-06-11T21:53:16.797-07:002009-06-11T21:53:16.797-07:00John,
I agree with you, of course. More later.
...John,<br /><br />I agree with you, of course. More later. <br /><br />B333,<br /><br />I think God is beyond gender but we can only relate to God out of our own humanness.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-44188634944779419362009-06-11T08:35:33.304-07:002009-06-11T08:35:33.304-07:00and P.S., Sue, I find what you said in this post h...and P.S., Sue, I find what you said in this post hugely insightful. It is interesting that where ever there is the feminine aspect of something, humans try to restrict it, even when it relates to an aspect of God. <br /><br />Even though I don't believe that God is either male/masculine or female/feminine, I do believe that God embodies characteristics of both. We should not elevate one over the other in our respect and appreciation.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-51799566996899424322009-06-11T08:31:14.443-07:002009-06-11T08:31:14.443-07:00"Any Greek grammar will first warn students n...<i>"Any Greek grammar will first warn students not to put too much emphasis on the gender."</i><br /><br />If only we could take the 'wisdom' from that statement and apply it to our lives as well. Gender is far less important than some make it. It has a place of importance, but not in everything.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-41069336510733021402009-06-11T08:28:13.172-07:002009-06-11T08:28:13.172-07:00John Starke suggests that interpreters should not ...John Starke suggests that <i>interpreters should not put too much stock in the gender of nouns or pronouns</i>.<br /><br />And yet how important those pronouns must become, for example, if all the English translations of the Greek that Suzanne gives in this post were "she" and "her." Yes, of course, these are references to the (male) God - and yet if "spirit," "breath," "wisdom," or (horrors) "word" were "she" or "her" - then in English suddenly there must be alarms going off. The feminine pronoun in the English bible is marked. (Which suggests that the masculine and neuter pronoun is default.)J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-29759737988889983762009-06-11T06:40:23.738-07:002009-06-11T06:40:23.738-07:00Sue - I think too much is being put into the gende...Sue - I think too much is being put into the gender of the nouns. In Hebrew and in Greek, interpreters should not put too much stock in the gender of nouns or pronouns, other than discussing antecedent parts of the argument (especially in Greek). The gender of sophia and logos has nothing to do with the Personhood of Jesus. Any Greek grammar will first warn students not to put too much emphasis on the gender.John Starkehttp://johnploughman.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-83245379911092442202009-06-11T05:35:11.772-07:002009-06-11T05:35:11.772-07:00Suzanne, thanks for the wonderful post!
First, I...Suzanne, thanks for the wonderful post! <br /><br />First, I have no idea why you cannot comment.Can you email me so that I can see if there is something wrong with your email addy? <br /><br />jwatts@suddenlink.net<br /><br />Second, perhaps unseen is not the best word that I could have used. Instead, perhaps I should have said heavenly verses earthly? By that, I mean, that John interacted on a very personal level with the Logos, while Wisdom has yet to interact with humanity on the personal level, as the Logos has. <br /><br />Wisdom is heavenly force, while Logos is earthly force. When God sent forth His Word, it was to interact with humanity, or creation, on some level, yet we are told to seek Wisdom. <br /><br />Am I confusing the situation even more?J. L. Wattshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01000798494472742263noreply@blogger.com