tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post5132826109962058416..comments2024-01-29T06:02:39.583-08:00Comments on Suzanne's Bookshelf: Asking for an apology from CBMWSuzanne McCarthyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-18284792013052726762011-08-13T20:29:42.701-07:002011-08-13T20:29:42.701-07:00The CBMW website has two mentions of "love yo...The CBMW website has two mentions of "love your neighbour" and countless search results for "wives submit." I think that needs to be straightened out.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-53500583662659693742011-08-13T14:32:34.726-07:002011-08-13T14:32:34.726-07:00A man is supposed to "live with his wife in a...A man is supposed to "live with his wife in an understanding way." And we are to "esteem others as higher than ourselves." We are supposed to treat others as we want to be treated. These are all from the Bible. If we read it as a whole, we know how to behave with our wives, husbands, friends children...etc.... There is not a different set of standards for marriage. I have a voice in my home. My husband gets my input on all matters, not because he thinks he has to, but because he has respect for me as the woman he loves. I don't know anyone that would call our marriage unbiblical. If a man is obeying God's 2 most important commands- Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself- he can't go wrong. The Bible does NOT tell a man to abuse his wife in any way, shape or form.djfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01686547157473357500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-72977654312411769392011-08-13T00:22:47.868-07:002011-08-13T00:22:47.868-07:00All these people "demand" is for the Bib...<i>All these people "demand" is for the Bible to be taught the way they think it should be, and not the way God wrote it. There is a lot of twisted nonsense being asserted in those demands. Does not match the Danvers statement at all. Made me nauseous. NO ONE "suffers" under the true model of family that God gave us. Again...read your Bible. The whole thing. </i><br /><br />This is exactly the same argument those who supported slavery in 1850 in the US used to make against those who supported Abolition. Exactly the same argument. It was said that the Abolitionists were denying what the Bible really said about slavery, in favor of what they thought it should say-- and that when slavery was practiced as God designed it, the slaves did not suffer. It was pointed out how "often" and how "clearly" the Bible spoke of slavery as being part of God's design. It was said that the preachers who upheld slavery were good men who cared about the gospel, and the integrity of the Bible, above all. <br /><br />All this, to justify the power of one person to own another. And now, it justifies the power of a man to be in authority over his wife. But is this what Jesus wanted? Jesus, who said EVERYONE who came to Him must come as a little child? Little children had no power, privilege or authority over anyone in that culture. When Jesus said, "The rulers of the Gentiles exercise authority, but not so among you," that is what He was talking about. <br /><br />It's high time we stopped missing the forest (the overarching nature of the kingdom of God as a place to renounce, not uphold, power and privilege) for the sake of certain individual trees (the proof-texts used to uphold male power over the female).Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-45209466603007169362011-08-12T20:03:11.035-07:002011-08-12T20:03:11.035-07:00Djf,
I have read the Bible, the Danvers Statement...Djf,<br /><br />I have read the Bible, the Danvers Statement and Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. I attended a church with one of the founders of CBMW for 15 years. <br /><br />in my experience this teaching destroyed the family in fundamental ways. I realise that not everyone has that experience but this was mine. It is as if I did not start to live until I left this behind me. <br /><br />Women must be able to initiate action, make decisions, carry them out, provide and protect their family. Anything less is an impairment. <br /><br />I consider myself and the readers of this blog to be extremely well educated in complementarianism. I agree with the demand for an apology and I wrote to CBMW years before this demand was made, begging them to make their gender blog biblical.Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13050325763708171253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-52517263042541041302011-08-12T15:53:03.088-07:002011-08-12T15:53:03.088-07:00Before you burn the CBMW at the stake, have any of...Before you burn the CBMW at the stake, have any of you, including the blog author searched your Bibles on these matters, or read the Danvers statement, or read a book by or listened to a sermon by any of the men on the CBMW committee? The ones I am familiar with are very godly men who are, first and for-most concerned with the Gospel of Christ. They continually preach the Gospel. If you actually read the rationale that precedes the the affirmations of the Danvers statement, it is obvious that the intent is NOT to oppress women, but to save the last dying vestiges of family structure in this country, and maintain God's design. If the Bible is being taught properly, then the above "demands" are just absurd. All these people "demand" is for the Bible to be taught the way they think it should be, and not the way God wrote it. There is a lot of twisted nonsense being asserted in those demands. Does not match the Danvers statement at all. Made me nauseous. NO ONE "suffers" under the true model of family that God gave us. Again...read your Bible. The whole thing.djfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01686547157473357500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-68642752984557367422010-08-26T13:40:22.421-07:002010-08-26T13:40:22.421-07:00I was at the confrence seneca falls two and these ...I was at the confrence seneca falls two and these women are so dedicated and determined it's amazingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-17636420529225052182010-08-05T03:26:36.734-07:002010-08-05T03:26:36.734-07:00...and there's your answer....and there's your answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-10737044722352040042010-08-05T00:59:22.654-07:002010-08-05T00:59:22.654-07:00Ernoop,
You are a wimp! What is wrong with you? :...Ernoop,<br /><br />You are a wimp! What is wrong with you? :-)<br /><br />I hope something goes your way today to cheer you up.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-19380908644999219492010-08-04T03:39:23.031-07:002010-08-04T03:39:23.031-07:00Not really spreading like wildfire, is it? I wonde...Not really spreading like wildfire, is it? I wonder why. Over to the Wiccans...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-89462872008783762472010-07-29T07:59:09.706-07:002010-07-29T07:59:09.706-07:00I agree with the double negative and mentioned it ...I agree with the double negative and mentioned it when I first saw it in the bWE blog.Paulahttp://www.fether.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-47733027919863492732010-07-28T13:47:56.093-07:002010-07-28T13:47:56.093-07:00QUOTE: 7. we are concerned that men who are taugh...QUOTE: 7. we are concerned that men who are taught that they have Male Headship over a home and church <b>do not feel that they are not accountable</b> for abusive attitudes and actions towards women; ENDQUOTE<br /><br />Isn't there a double negative in there? It should be "do not feel that they are accountable" or "feel that they are not accountable". <br /><br />Not to be a wet blanket, but some more input (like some of the above observations) and some really good editing wouldn't hurt before getting this published too far and wide?Charishttp://hupotasso.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-47645071683438176562010-07-26T03:19:18.198-07:002010-07-26T03:19:18.198-07:00Thank you; FWIW.Thank you; <a href="http://nevermindthetagmemics.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/your-story/" rel="nofollow">FWIW</a>.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-62087547487102465552010-07-25T15:59:06.315-07:002010-07-25T15:59:06.315-07:00I've linked to this and posted the letter here...I've linked to this and posted the letter <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/07/25/freedom-for-christian-woman-coalition-demands-an-apology/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thanks for letting us know about it.Shawna Atteberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752697766813703698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-89982348787129347252010-07-24T20:04:57.623-07:002010-07-24T20:04:57.623-07:00Here is my link to this post, Sue, thanks for the ...Here is my link to this post, Sue, thanks for the update<br /><br />http://politicaljesus.com/2010/07/24/a-request-for-the-cbmw-to-apologize/Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847912389789698622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-5687636757749132452010-07-24T19:07:23.457-07:002010-07-24T19:07:23.457-07:00We have to get in their faces, and keep up the pre...We have to get in their faces, and keep up the pressure. Those people understand nothing but power, and would dearly love for us to keep compromising or talking or being eternally patient. Let them scream and threaten... they have a place and a fine income to protect, after all. It is time to bring the fight to the public, because every day we stay in the shadows is a day another woman suffers.Paulahttp://www.fether.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-70979822104291548172010-07-24T18:08:11.250-07:002010-07-24T18:08:11.250-07:00Its a beginning. I would also like to see a retrac...Its a beginning. I would also like to see a retraction of all the twisted exegesis that has been published to brainwash women.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-68320480491971294742010-07-24T17:36:31.747-07:002010-07-24T17:36:31.747-07:00I see this as a useful development. When enough w...I see this as a useful development. When enough women figure out that non-egalism is not all its cracked up to be, then it will die. One cannot expect that the ones in power will relinquish it.Donald Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07904992652259586383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-28091067801600312572010-07-24T15:59:54.392-07:002010-07-24T15:59:54.392-07:00IMO, instead of demanding an apology, I think they...IMO, instead of demanding an apology, I think they should issue a denunciation of The Danvers Statement and/or CBMW in line with the "history of repeated injuries and usurpations" listed in the Declaration of Independence against the King of Great Britain.<br /><br />A "Demand For An Apology" has no ability to extract such an apology from CBMW. I.e., it's sound and fury, signifying nothing.<br /><br />However, a public denunciation of the evils resulting from The Danvers Statement and its support by CBMW and sympathetic churches might be the kind of thing that causes CBMW to feel compelled to respond, even if only to defend itself. Especially if a magazine like <b>Christianity Today</b> reports on and publishes the Denunciation.EricWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09008786460314263379noreply@blogger.com