tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post1596363507327987225..comments2024-01-29T06:02:39.583-08:00Comments on Suzanne's Bookshelf: Piper's Mystery TranslationSuzanne McCarthyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-91928317762381219752009-08-20T02:08:19.191-07:002009-08-20T02:08:19.191-07:00I thought it was well known to all Greek scholars ...I thought it was well known to all Greek scholars (so this is perhaps evidence that Piper is not one) that <i>oun</i> has a distinctive meaning in the writings of John, who uses conjunctions in an idiosyncratic way.Peter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-32612002018319544812009-08-19T22:08:04.470-07:002009-08-19T22:08:04.470-07:00I just hope that Piper is joking; that is all I am...I just hope that Piper is joking; that is all I am asking for. ESV-onlyists are getting ridiculous.Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847912389789698622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-45359928459000264932009-08-19T20:11:55.447-07:002009-08-19T20:11:55.447-07:00Rather inexplicable, this quibbling...actually qui...Rather inexplicable, this quibbling...actually quite strange. I checked every translation I have (which is a lot) and found no <i>therefore</i>.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-26618416207483229802009-08-19T18:13:52.862-07:002009-08-19T18:13:52.862-07:00The closest I've found is the Darby translatio...The closest I've found is the Darby translation, which has "When therefore..."<br /><br />But considering the value he seems to place on "literal" translation, its odd that he would want a translation to *begin* with "therefore" at all (assuming for the sake of argument that its a good translation of ουν here) since the first word of the verse is definitely and indisputably οτε.Mike Aubreyhttp://evepheso.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com