tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post2091148067065328170..comments2024-01-29T06:02:39.583-08:00Comments on Suzanne's Bookshelf: Compassionate Mother: part 2Suzanne McCarthyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-17178744323437248782009-08-29T14:54:07.535-07:002009-08-29T14:54:07.535-07:00According to the Scriptures and the Creeds, the So...According to the Scriptures and the Creeds, the Son is the Word that God speaks, the true expression of the Father-- and the Spirit "proceeds from" the Father and the Son. The Spirit is also referred to as "blowing" like a Breath. The Word God speaks is God, and the Breath God breathes is likewise God. What is being expressed is not hierarchy, but the interconnections of the three Persons, with the Father at the center (as opposed to "at the top.")<br /><br />The way the eternal subordinationists would have it, the Father commanded the Son to be incarnated, and the Son submitted, which implies not a state of being One, but a functional difference in will-- which would mean not One God, but three. <br /><br />Not so. The Father sent the Word, and the Word desired to go. No submission was necessary. They were, and are, One.Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-24484279659902821072009-08-29T12:25:12.744-07:002009-08-29T12:25:12.744-07:00I am lookng for this quote and have found a book c...I am lookng for this quote and have found a book called A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of the Christian Church in google books. Is that it. Do you have a page number?Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-71315045272489611502009-08-29T12:13:43.929-07:002009-08-29T12:13:43.929-07:00Believer,
That's interesting. I have to thin...Believer, <br /><br />That's interesting. I have to think about that. <br /><br /><br />Robert,<br /><br />Do you think you could find a quote that spoke particularly to the role of the Spirit as comforter. That would be great!Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-72227992787860203762009-08-29T12:10:51.141-07:002009-08-29T12:10:51.141-07:00I would point the readers to the historic statemen...I would point the readers to the historic statements of the Trinity in the so-called modern Church, with people like the Eastern Orthodox theolog, Sergius Bulgakov. His nice, but very profound book: The Comforter is a good place to start.<br /><br />Fr. Robert (Anglican)Fr. Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-59939618773157984002009-08-29T09:54:27.771-07:002009-08-29T09:54:27.771-07:00“That is, the Godhead is in reality neither gender...“That is, the Godhead is in reality neither gendered nor hierarchical, but we use these images to communicate something about God. The trinity can be talked about both as an all masculine cohort of Father, Son and Spirit; and as Father, Mother and Son. The image is not the reality. “<br /><br />I believe that is true. That is why I particularly like this quote:<br /><br /><i>“Thou art my Father, thou art my Mother, thou my Brother, thou art Friend, thou art Servant, thou art House-keeper; thou art the All, and the All is in thee; thou art Being, and there is nothing that is, except thou. “</i><br />Chrysostom [Nicene & Post Nicene Father, no. 10, 1st ser., ed. Philip Schaff]believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.com