tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post8434271385111371370..comments2024-01-29T06:02:39.583-08:00Comments on Suzanne's Bookshelf: here and thereSuzanne McCarthyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-10256279996295744992009-10-02T22:42:27.413-07:002009-10-02T22:42:27.413-07:00Suzanne, I saw the movie for the second time coinc...Suzanne, I saw the movie for the second time coincidentally at a food kitchen for the homeless.<br /><br />Here is what I had to say:<br /><br />http://politicaljesus.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/what-would-a-homeless-person-say-about-the-movie-fireproof/<br /><br />:)Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847912389789698622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-70675270063878366262009-09-28T17:02:53.299-07:002009-09-28T17:02:53.299-07:00Rod,
I haven't seen the movie, but I am guess...Rod,<br /><br />I haven't seen the movie, but I am guessing that I would not enjoy it so I won't put myself through that. I trust Waneta on this. <br /><br />Claude, <br /><br />I should have linked a long time ago, but I am very hit and miss with my sidebar these days. <br /><br />Gengwall,<br /><br />In an abusive situation, submission reinforces the abuse, it makes it worse. <br /><br />If the partner has any abusive tendencies at all, submission encourages and increases this, and creates an abusive situation. <br /><br />In a couple where submission is held to be mutual, submission has less tendency to create abuse. <br /><br />If the husband is perfect, submission does not encourage abuse. <br /><br />I don't personally agree with what is taught in 1 Peter. I don't think we would just cheer on a slave who was being flogged or a wife held in subordination. As Sarah Sumner put it in her book, women are in the pit of indignity and trauma. <br /><br />That was her description and I couldn't agree more. Some women just deaden certain parts of themselves and some compensate by having other outlets. I know some women who are depressed and others who have become incredible artists, both in subordination. <br /><br />We do what we can, but is it right?Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-25477582030526731542009-09-28T12:23:52.462-07:002009-09-28T12:23:52.462-07:00Suzanne,
Thank you for linking my blog to your bl...Suzanne,<br /><br />Thank you for linking my blog to your blog.<br /><br />Claude MariottiniDr. Claude Mariottinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08022725291281227401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-31687666636440898762009-09-28T11:35:54.251-07:002009-09-28T11:35:54.251-07:00I think what Suzanne meant was, this is the realit...I think what Suzanne meant was, this is the reality of unilateral submission with no requirement/expectation of reciprocation. <br /><br />Where the husband feels no injunction to humble himself as Christ did and sacrifice his own needs and desires to/for his wife, and where she unquestioningly submits to his every whim-- such an indulgence of sinful human nature on the part of the husband (and lack of exercise of her ezer kenego power to hold him accountable) can hardly help but have bad results. <br /><br />Bad trees bear bad fruit. . .Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-14595228495370030392009-09-28T11:26:27.086-07:002009-09-28T11:26:27.086-07:00"This is the reality of submission"
I d..."This is the reality of submission"<br /><br />I don't follow you Suzanne. Hopefully you meant that this is the reality in an abusive situation, and not that this is the universal reality. If so, Paul is asking wives to foster abuse against them and husbands are universally incapable of reacting positively to submission. I hardly think that was his intent.gengwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14777011310672675137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19505042.post-37986556807518990002009-09-27T20:39:43.504-07:002009-09-27T20:39:43.504-07:00Thank you Suzanne for the link to the post on Fire...Thank you Suzanne for the link to the post on Fireproof. I saw the movie out of curiousity and it has as bad of theology as any Christian movie out these days. Christians should just leave the movie business.Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847912389789698622noreply@blogger.com