Although Mark did continue the discussion much further than this, I thought I would stop and examine this set of theses.
- Inclusive Language in Contemporary English, Thesis 1:
In contemporary English usage there is a wide range of practice when it comes to inclusive language.
Inclusive Language in Contemporary English, Thesis 2:
The use of inclusive gender language is more common among younger speakers, though this fact can be exaggerated.
If you're interested in why I believe these theses to be true, you should check my last post.
Today I'll add one more thesis:
Inclusive Language in Contemporary English, Thesis 3:
People who actively participate in conservative evangelical Christian communities are less likely to use inclusive gender language and more likely to be comfortable with traditional male generic language.
Inclusive Language in Today's English: Another Thesis Part 16 of the series “Is the TNIV Good News?”Posted at 11:55 p.m. on Sunday, March 6, 2005
- MEN and women today feel lost and astray in this world, J I Packer here .
Modern men and women may claim to have come of age, but from this standpoint humanity seems to have regressed to adolescence. J I Packer here
- "Rise up, O men of God, have done with lesser things!” was a rousing hymn of commitment for men of a previous era. Today most Christian men I meet on campus don’t know this hymn; more importantly, they have a difficult time knowing what it means to be “men of God”—let alone what “rise up” might imply for their lives as students.
Dave Collins here
I have been reading 2 Timothy in Greek recently and was delighted to come across a favourite verse from my Inter Varsity days.
- και α ηκουσας παρ' εμου δια πολλων μαρτυρων, ταυτα παραθου πιστοις ανθρωποις, οιτινες ικανοι εσονται και ετερους διδαξαι. 2 TImothy 2:2
- Αnd what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. 2 Tιm. 2:2 ESV
"men" (plural, when referring to male persons) to "people" or "believers" or "friends" or "humans";
So 'men', in Greek anthropos, must be translated as 'men' not 'people', as it is in the TNIV, because it refers to men.
In Inter Varsity, I never once thought, or was made to think, that this verse referred to men only. There is nothing in the Greek that says men only. In Greek it says anthropos, in ESV 'men' by which I now believe I should understand 'men' and not 'women'. How low have we fallen? Sisyphus, thy name is woman!